Last Week in the Trenches – 1/29/15

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Last Week in the Trenches

1/29/15

 

Here are some questions raised from an LDS/Christian group in response to my “Why Should I Trust the Bible?” seminar.

 

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Group: B.C.  &  L.D.S.  (Biblical Christians and Latter Day Saints)

 

The Bible claims to be “God-breathed.” Christians often assume this truth while the watching world asks, “Why Should I Trust the Bible?” In this lesson I attempt to give a cursory answer to that question. This is part of a larger curriculum called “Why Should I Trust the Bible?”

 

Comments/Issues/Attacks

Where does the Bible claim to be God-breathed?

So the word “scripture” translates to “God-breathed?”

I’m just trying to figure out how it’s understood that the verse is talking specifically about the Bible.

How exactly is the word inspiration understood to mean God-breathed? It would seem that inspiration means something completely different, so I don’t understand why the translation differs so much from what it apparently is supposed to mean.

I think it comes down to the answer to one question. Either you believe the bible is the one and only inspired word of God or you don’t. If you don’t, then you can’t trust it. If you don’t trust it, we have no common ground. LDS claim the bible as part of their scripture, but you have to defend it or try to prove it’s integrity to Mormons, almost as much as you ever do to Atheists. And it’s not just that Christians have one opinion of what it says and the LDS another. Everything comes into question, from archeological evidence to uninspired writings not being included as canon.  To many it is seen just as a tool that can aid in understanding God through LDS ” scriptures”, or a type of history book, to an old book written about a bunch of dead men.

But the context of what paul is saying is concerning the old testament hence when he says sacred writings. The ones that his grandmother and mother taught him.

Do the BOM or other Mormon writings claim to be God Breathed/inspired?

In the Bible we see Peter calling Paul’s writing inspired, Paul calling Luke inspired, and Jesus canonizing our Old Testament. So that was not done in the BOM.

Perhaps it would be beneficial to consider our modern use of “inspired” (as in I was inspired by the plethora of books written to never write one myself) is not the use found in the KJV translated from the Greek 400 years ago. The understanding of God’s use of about 42 men to deliver the text 66 books of the Bible, is based on the promise God would and did speak, then preserved those words. This has been the orthodox understanding of Scripture through two centuries. This is commonly referred to as plenary inspiration. The originals were inspired in the sense that God used the mind of these men to deliver His Word using their personalities and every word was purposeful as they were carried by the Holy Spirit (2 Peter 1:21). Sure some manuscripts since the original were junk, but with varied locations throughout the last 2000 years doing the same work, the reality and completeness of the Bible is sure. My copying and translating of Greek certainly were not inspired, though the overwhelming evidence of the complete preservation within manuscripts, early church writings, and Bible quotes in various early sermons continues to verify and substantiate God’s Word as being the Bible. For me, God’s Word in 1 Peter 1:22-25 is sufficient to ensure preservation (though this is only one of many such quotes, see Matthew 5:18, 24:35; Is 40:8, Psalm 119 repeatedly): 1 Peter 1:23-25 KJV Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you. 1 Peter 1:23-25 HCSB since you have been born again — not of perishable seed but of imperishable — through the living and enduring word of God. For All flesh is like grass, and all its glory like a flower of the grass. The grass withers, and the flower falls, but the word of the Lord endures forever. And this is the word that was preached as the gospel to you.